Zodiac Killer et al - split from SFK

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:03 am

Got your message

THANK YOU.

Sent you reply.

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:41 pm

JL,

sent you a PM.

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:11 pm

JL,
If you think my theory is correct concerning the info I sent you then I think something prevented the killer from committing more crimes of the same nature as the little girl that was killed.

There was however, another death in the same town that police had originally thought might be a homicide, but I think they ruled it a suicide.

I can't remember where, but there's a story in the news about several young men who are committing suicide by jumping in front of a train. Might be hard for some to imagine that someone could cause another person to do something like that, but if you can, then you might want to look into it.

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:04 pm

Since I don't have a map of all the locations where serial murders have occurred I was trying to form a pattern from memory of the different one's I've heard about. Doing that I came upon the ideal that the killer may be using the "Star of David" as his guide.

Interstate 20 runs through the center of America, then each point or corner might be the location where a series of serial murders have occured. Longest lines mark the routes he takes. Kansas marks the center point.

Just an ideal, I havent looked it up on a map to see if it might be possible. What do you think?

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:07 pm

Hi Sherry, I got your pm, check your in box.

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:53 am

ONE SECTION OF ZODIAC'S CRYPTOGRAM,

sent ot the San Francisco Chronicle

N >l _ S _ E / _ _ Z _ A P _ B V

nosey, see easy, know, breeze zapped by

9 _ X Q W Q _ F _ _ _ + _ _ A _ B

baffled, wife, (CC) see tab - table

_ O T O R U _ + _ O Y Q _ _ S Q W

pot currency, P. S. counted, I question rust

V Z E G Y K E _ T Y A _ _ _ L _ _

was a edgy kettle thief and liar R. I. was 2 faced

H T F B X _ zodiac X A D D / _L T A Q
box zodiac added like called

_ E D _ _ I E O P O R X Q F _ G C

opening eddie offers, porkie forced

Z _ J T T (or) I Q _ _ J I+ R B P Q W O

zodiac to quit - get robbed pack

V E X R _ W I _ Q E H M _ _ U I >l

wovex or I wreck home quick

Letters in the empty shapes are:

B R O C C P S R I B S

Broke / c p s / ribs

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:41 am

Continued from one section of the Zodiac cryptograms sent by Zodiac to the San Francisco Chronicle:

K I n V _ W H E O _ I M _ _ X E ^

Kin never know who I'm vexen

_ M Q d B _ + I _ _ _ O T _ _ _ Z

I mark culprit - it get quite mysterious I admit it - I Zodiac.

C _ _ _ Q X _ O d O E _ _ _ D E _

cross - see big fib quicker, opened deck

Q V T 7 _ / D _ _ X to Z _ X B _ T H

equipped to add double to Zodiac box that

_ T 7 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ E K _ G E Z ^

2-faced liar ought to cage easy guess

M Q S V _ Q _ D _ + C n R O T O _

mark self vindictive and yours cant stop
rust

B _ A _ _ + C _ _ F _ Q M O _ E b

albiet its a fact curfew makes tab conformible even

^ B _ d _ _ Z _ _ _ / E C S _ K N
a bad vibe Zodiac breathes easy. so can BR

In last post
WOVEX - not in the dictionary, but I've heard it means anger or rage.
So when Zodiac packed his Wovex he hid his anger.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:03 am

BTK'S --Chapter 8 Puzzle--Part 2

Some of the words in this section are:

Double Jepardy
Larry
BST--best
Lyes--lies
PLASD--placed
WICHITA
JIV--jive
TELEPHONE
AND
SON
SZ--size or says
FIM--film
PRDX--products
SHL--Shawl
GHN--gone
AY--ah
C--see
BOAHC--botch
RECIF--rectify
FGHJK-- forgery-- k is sometimes y or t. or GHJ--gage
KLLD--killed
POET
STRONG
WPD--Wichita Police Department
NEQ--neck
GREN--grin
S.O.S.
ED or EDZ--ends or Z--Zodiac
THAK--thank

Tip: after you find the words with the puzzle turned up, then turn it upside down and look for words that way. This is just some of the words I found while looking at the puzzle. I haven't put them together to see what hidden message it may contain.

Both Zodiac and BTK deliberately mispelled words, spelling them by sound rather than the actual spelling.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:27 pm

The Zodiac's unsolved 340 cipher

On November 9, 1969, the Zodiac sent what has become known as the "340 Cipher" (for the 340 cryptic characters that it contains). The California Department of Justice, the FBI, the Office of Naval Intelligence, the U.S. Postal Service, and local bay area police departments, as well as many professional code breakers, have been unable to solve this cipher and it remains unsolved to this day.

The following information is provided by Sherry.

The following is a partial list of information that can be helpful in decipering the Zodiac cryptograms or BTK's chapter 8 puzzle:

A Y, V, L, T used in any direction could be the letter itself or an arrow indicating a change of direction or go to the next row.

Colored in shapes could be a blank space or represent a letter. For example a shaded square could be the letter D or O: A shaded triangle could be an A or a V: A shaded circle is O. This also applies to shapes when left plain. A Line _ represents a missing letter.

B 9 = Beign
S 9 = square or square 9
N 9 t = north nineth
A capital I with a line drawn middle ways on one side could be the letter I, T, E, or L., also it.

A shape with a dot in the center could be the letter as mentioned above or represent I or I and another letter.

9^R = niner
N = North or in
9 = is number 9 or letters q, p, or g
t = letter T, backwars j or the number 2
Line_ = skip or space
Z = is Zodiac, the letter Z, move right or left, or the number 2.
A colored square and X means go to the letter X

Backwards letters may also mean to go in the other direction

Upside down or upright T can mean to go up or down 1 space. EX: T, move up one space. May also be the letter T, L, I, and sometimes Y.
The letter V is also sometimes Y

The letter L, foward or backward, could mean go to the left or right, or the letter L

A number bsise a letter could indicate number of letters or rows to skip or to double a letter. EX:
2 B = bb

B Square Y O B = boy oh boy
DHN = down
ZO triangle l K = Zodiac
lOOC = Look
Wt = weight
Wct = watch
DWY = dowery
K, I with center line + C = catch
9 L colored in O + = Plot
l backwards Y l r = Liar
U Z G = using
T E l D Y = titty, Teddy, or Diety
F K D (censored word)
p o s h t = Pushed or post
O = owe
>l, or l<, may be a backwards K or move a space
M can be W or W can be M
M + Y = me and you
U + R = your, You're, or You are
C = letter C or see
Letters X or O may be blank spaces
Z= the letter Z or Zodiac or to move left or right

Hope this helps. Maybe now someone can solve the cryptograms, it takes a lot of time and concentration, and I've never been able to complete the ciphers or puzzles.

These are the tips I've found so far, but there may be others. Please post if you know them.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:37 pm

Thank you so very much Watchman. Very Happy

Some claim that some of the others have been solved, but using the method that I use, I'm not sure that they have been. Question

Perhaps they do say what they've come up with, but I believe it is possible that they say more.

I've posted some information on page 3, that I've came up with, that may help anyone who may be interested in solving the above cipher.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:22 am

Just an example of how I think the puzzle should be worked. I don't know what it says. If you post what you think it says, it might help me be able to figure it out, or maybe you can get ideals from what I post. Working together, maybe we'll get it. If someone can put it together someone else can figure it out.

1st line down: from below the __
You see Zodiac--Liar--timid,

Last line across: man down--north 9th--Stine-- Zodiac kit

Up from last line: It took plot

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:32 am

Hey Watchman,

Don't want to be a bother, but do you think you can post the deciper code I posted on page 3, there beside the 340-ciper. Laughing

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:07 am

Sherry Smith
i have sent you a pm

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:32 am

Gary

I got your message and sent you a pm

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:59 am

340-cipher

Line 1 across

Her lover VP told it god-dog it. See it privy.
Her learn.