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elledoc wrote:With respect to the young man who's parent's wrote where the case was deemed a suicide . . . excellent point about grief often including denial where suicide is concerned, and truthfully, that was my first thought with this case (accident or suicide that his friends and family were having a difficult time accepting) . . . but the more I found out about this, and with knowing the young man as a student in several of my classes and as his advisor, I no longer believe that to be the case. The forensics really don't add up to suicide or an accident, and though I wouldn't claim to know the victim incredibly well, we talked a lot, and he was in a really solid space when this happened, with lots of plans and other factors in place that don't fit well at all with suicide. More compelling to me as someone who has seen a lot of homicide cases is the angle of the shot. This wasn't clear in the earlier post, but it would be freakish that this was suicide or an accident (he was very experienced and careful with guns, incidentally) given the angle and distance to the head wound. Something akin to him holding the gun below is waist in his non-dominant hand, which would then have to have been pointing up and over at an angle that is almost inconceivably awkward, if not physically impossible. Yes, I know freakish stuff happens, and I've seen a lot of it . . . but I don't think that's what was shaking in this case. If this young man were going to kill himself, it wouldn't have been in this manner. I understand his parent's suspicion, and share it (though I do think another possibility is that the other boy in the room accidentally shot him as they looked at the gun, and was too fearful to say so). He was a really smart, really good kid with lots of close friends. If anyone can provide any help to this family, I would encourage you to do so. It is a NC case, in response to someone's question, and I can't recall the details on the firearm aside from it being equipped with a well-designed safety.



breeze wrote:I know the young man who was shot very well I would say, but then again with young me constantly growing and making their own way, parents don't always know what's on their son's minds. Needless to say the Man traded a car he had since he was 16 and decked out for the car he had wanted since he got his License and planned to redo the who thing with his dad to go out to the western flats and run it all out. The parts list he started on was great with a hefty price tag to go with with. He was a hard person and yet with everything he went through in life he did find his gentler side. He did not mind help a friend with car problem and never turn down a female with car problems because he did not want to see them stranded. A real gentleman. He was complicated in many ways and I believe those with his extreme high IQ are like that, somewhat a know it all and can be very anal at time. Then most genius' are. He was looking forward to doing his Masters and excited that he past the Fed test and would get to do some of that training. He looked like most kids you see everyday, he didn't stand out or acted out unless provoked then katy bar the door 'cause he wouldn't take the BS. He was funny, a good listner, wonderful friend and the best secret keeper around. I really can't express much more than this and yet I don't feel I have done him justice in this posting. But as far as the Young Man go he was very much Unique in his own way and God broke the mold when he was created.






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