DOMESTIC RELATED PROBLEMS

[Journey]

Domestic related problems are on the rise.

I'm not sure if laws are the same in all states but I wanted to share some information in the event someone out there may have a domestic related issue.

In the past year, in East Carroll Parish, LA, there have been three domestic related disputes that resulted in shootings. This past Monday a woman shot her boyfriend following a dispute. Earlier this year a corrections offficer shot and killed his wife. Not long after that another C.O. also shot and killed his wife and then turned the gun on his self.

Some people assume that they can use self-defense as a justification when they shoot someone in the midst of a fight, but an official points out that when a person decides to take a weapon to a confrontation, or when they pull out a weapon in a home because of an argument is taking place, then that goes to premeditation in terms of state of mind since the weapon is being introduced before the altercation begins.

Police say a weapon should never be used unless a persons life is in danger and they are unable to get away from the danger another person is about to inflict upon them.

Police say that if you find yourself in a domestic situation where you could leave and choose to stay and continue the argument until it escalates into violence then it will be tough to argue self defence in court if you shoot or stab somebody.

Experts say such cases are increasing around the country and N. E. Louisiana has seen a steady rise in domestic related shootings over the past five years.

[Journey]

SEVEN RULES OF FIGHTING

1. Be committed to honesty and mutual respect.

2. Make sure your weapons (or words) are not deadly. Keep your anger under control.

3. Agree that the time is right. Not all times are appropriate for fighting.

4. Be ready with a positive solution after a fight. Follow a negative command with a positive encouragement.

5. Watch your words and guard your tone. Eliminate the words, "always" and "never" when referring to anothers shortcomings. Also, remember that "YOU" is taken as an accusation and a persons natural response is to defend themselves against such.

6. Don't fight in the presence others or in public.

7. When it's over, let it go. This involves kindness, tenderness and forgiveness.

These are the rules, Write them down. Memorize them. Talk about them. But most of all....Keep them.

[lawmanconfidential]

*****RE POST OF MY ORIGINAL REPLY WHICH WAS EDITED OUT! I HAPPENED TO HAVE JUST CAME ACROSS IT, IN THE FORM OF THE COPY I HAD E MAILED OUT TO A WOMAN IN LA. WHO HAD SOUGHT MY HELP(And I have to call back! sorry!) BUT HERE IT IS ...WHICH BELIEVE IT OR NOT WAS/IS HARD FOR ME TO TALK ABOUT AS IT BRINGS BACK A LOT OF EMOTIONS ..AND ADDS TO MY FRUSTRATION....I MUST ADMIT I WAS VENTING/RANTING THAT NIGHT...BUT I WAS RANTING THE TRUTH WHICH EVIDENTLY SOME PEOPLE CAN'T HANDLE!!*******


Guess you brought up the right topic for the right guy on the right day!

"DOMESTIC VIOLENCE LAWS ARE NOW BASICALLY THE SAME SINCE CT. PASSED THE THURMAN ACT NAMED AFTER "TRACY THURMAN" WHOSE HUSBAND CUT HER TO SHREDS AFTER THE COPS LEFT!
I WAS IN ONE OF THE FIRST POLICE ACADEMY CLASSES IN THE U.S THAT WAS INDOCTRINATED TO THAT LAW IN 1989! When I had to go back to the academy when I joined the state Initially as a Patrol man/Police Officer and later xfered /became a Corrections/Parole Officer & C.T.O. /"Criminalist"
I retired 2 years ago 2 years early from the numerous physical injuries I sustained! and still deal with the emotional ones!



The Domestic Violence law states that anytime the Police are called to an alleged act of domestic violence/"Domestic Disturbance" If there is any reason to believe Threatened/Perceived or actual violence occurred if the parties are Cohabitants,spouses,siblings,parent/child the offending party will be charged pursuant to THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ACT" and be arrested and have to appear before a judge the next day and a FULL PROTECTIVE ORDER IS IMMEDIATELY ISSUED ALL FIREARMS HAVE TO BE SURRENDERED AND THE AND THE OFFENDING/ACCUSED PARTY CAN'T RETURN TO THE COMMON DOMICILE ,CAN'T CARRY A FIREARM (IF CONVICTED THEY MAY NEVER BE ABLE TO!) THIS LAW ALTHOUGH VITAL MAKES COPS,PROFESSIONAL SECURITY, SOLDIERS AND ANY OTHER PROFESSION WHICH REQUIRES THE ABILITY TO USE A FIREARM AT A HIGH RISK!

I HAVE INVESTIGATED AND BEEN ON THE RECEIVING END OF A VINDICTIVE EX SPOUSE/S WHO WOULD "TRY TO ABUSE THE LAW! Due to the fact that even when there is no sign of abuse or someone is just intoxicated they have to leave and either go to a hotel,friends or ER if they are too cocked to drive!
But I know many cases of guys careers and reputations being ruined because of the law and their actions! I NAILED A COUPLE WHO WAS ABUSING THE LAW LAST YEAR! ALTHOUGH THE LAWYER WHO ASKED ME TO Get Justice for his client a Humble Puerto Rican Barber whose wife "LEFT HIM AND THEIR 3 SONS! (The youngest was 6!) For a 60 something ex cop? who should be a poster boy as to why Viag ra should be outlawed! This scumbag lowlife coward punk (I wanted to put on a pair of sap gloves and beat his booty! like the punk beatch he is!) Imagine encouraging a woman to leave her husband & children! WTF! and to make things worse when the poor father asked for child support this wiseguy waanbe! who always had to carry a gun! puto!
I was able to show the guy Criminally Negligent and liable for manipulating a pliable mind as in the estranged mother who now would be a puppet as she had to justify her actions! It gets deep but then again I am a deep Mo Fo! and the Lier/Lawyer got the charge dropped! and did not want to go back to court! This guy who is a Lawyer only because his Colombian parents made him go to law school because he wasn't smart enough to get in med school stiffed me for 200$! and never told or poor vic. that Colombians think P.R's are Peasants! "bendayhoe!
ANYWAY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE LAWS ARE IN PLACE TO PROTECT THE WEAK!

NOW FOR THE OTHER PART OF YOUR QUESTION!!

BELIEVE ME I think the fact that the were C.O.S had more to do with it than anything ...But not to single out Just C.O.s BUT ALL COPS HAVE THE SAME ISSUES C.O.S JUST HAVE A LITTLE MORE NEGATIVE STRESS AND DIFFICULTY SEPARATING THEIR COP ON THE TOUGHEST BEAT PERSONA FROM THEMSELVES Where a City Patrolman might get called to help a Child,Lady in distress or Thanked for actually helping someone Corrections/Parole officers and jobs like U.S Marshall whether working in a Jail. Prison or even on the street still are dealing almost exclusively with criminals and that sub class of actual mutant deviants that TAKE KINDNESS FOR WEAKNESS!.. Now add to the mix Guns even though often C.O.s don't have to carry a firearm working in a secure Jail,Prison etc. but on the street and especially off duty! a gun is always present add to it the big money that Cops get today! Chicks dig us! some guys get carried away with that "On the edge!" lifestyle and get involved in risky behavior!
The Job breeds it's own "Outlaw" mentality!
ALL THE PENT UP FRUSTRATION,HOSTILITY HAVING TO HIDE FEELINGS AND EMOTION EVEN BEING CIVIL TO A RESPECTFUL POLITE CHILD MOLESTER CAN ANGER A MAN AS HIS NATURE IS TO RESPOND AS A DECENT HUMAN BEING THEN YOU REALIZE YOUR TALKING SPORTS TO A GUY WHO SODOMIZED HIS 3 YEAR OLD! OR SOME THUG WHO TRIED TO RAPE A NEW JACK!YOU KNOW WILL BE ON THE STREET WITH YOUR FAMILY ANY DAY! AND A RAPIST IS A RAPIST! SO YOU CHARGE HIM AND IT;S ALL ABOUT THE RACE CARD! OR MAKING TROUBLE FOR YOUR LT.! IMAGINE IF YOU HAD TO PROFILE ..INTERVIEW INVESTIGATE CLASSIFY THESE PEOPLE AND LISTEN TO THE DETAILS! YOU WOULD PROBABLY BE AN ALCOHOLIC TOO! THANK GOD I WAS ABLE TO STOP 3 GUYS I WORKED WITH IN THE LAST 3 YEARS BLEW THEIR BRAINS OUT BY EATING THEIR GUNS!
Thanks for letting me share! Rolling Eyes
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Oh yeah the new charge d jour is if your minor children are home and you decide to get it twisted or think you are going to turn the tables on your butt hole husband who may or may not be a Cop but has Beer on his Breath from being out with the fellas and you think your going to tell him to get out or you will call 911 and say he threatened you! Then you can get pinched for "Risk of injury" to your minor children! maybe it will catch on in other parts!
IF YOU LIKED THIS POST WAIT TILL I TELL YOU ABOUT THE MISCONCEPTION WITH CRIME FIGURES AND STATS!

LOOK OUT N.C.!!

[lawmanconfidential]

HEY SPEAKING OF LOUISIANA I GOT A LETTER FROM A WOMAN DOWN THERE WHO ASKED ME TO LOOK INTO ABUSE BY A COURT (?PROSECUTOR) ATTORNEY WHO IS USING HER POSITION TO GET OUT OF CHILD SUPPORT! IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING!

[Journey]

Hey! Those are the rules for both men and women. I didn't say everyone always plays fair.

As far as these attorneys here, I wouldn't be surprised.

When this person that I know divorced his first wife, she took him to the cleaners. Froze his assets, and accused him of abuse, which wasn't true, all because she wanted the money from the sale of the house. She left this person for another man.

And how did she accomplish that, because the lawyer he had convinced him she didn't have any grounds, and it be cheaper to just plead; No contest. It wasn't. She won and took custody of the kids too.

[watchman]

As far as these attorneys here, I wouldn't be surprised.

When this person that I know divorced his first wife, she took him to the cleaners. Froze his assets, and accused him of abuse, which wasn't true, all because she wanted the money from the sale of the house. She left this person for another man.

And how did she accomplish that, because the lawyer he had convinced him she didn't have any grounds, and it be cheaper to just plead; No contest. It wasn't. She won and took custody of the kids too.

Journey
You make an excellent point. Not all professionals have the same level of expertise, competence or standards. Before retaining any licensed professional it’s in ones best interest to conduct due diligence beyond just merely verifying a license.

wm

[lawmanconfidential]

HEY WHERE IS MY POST???

[Journey]

Hi LM,

Isn't your post there?

Still waiting for you to tell us about the Misconception with crime figures and stats.

[watchman]

LM

Sent you a PM, which post are you referring to?

wm

[lawmanconfidential]

I wrote a whole essay about the domestic violence laws!
the fact that I was in one of the first Police academy classes to teach it!
How wives of Leos can abuse it A case I worked last year that may of set a precedent as I brought an ex cop/wiseguy wanna be that was hitting the ole Viag*ra a little too hard! on Felony Criminal Conspiracy and neglect charges....The deal with C.O. s and all cops and domestics!! real true factual stuff you can't read any where else!

[watchman]

I wrote a whole essay about the domestic violence laws!
the fact that I was in one of the first Police academy classes to teach it!
How wives of Leos can abuse it A case I worked last year that may of set a precedent as I brought an ex cop/wiseguy wanna be that was hitting the ole Viag*ra a little too hard! on Felony Criminal Conspiracy and neglect charges....The deal with C.O. s and all cops and domestics!! real true factual stuff you can't read any where else!

lawman I was online at the time and never saw your post. I'll check into it.

wm

[lawmanconfidential]

HEY JOURNEY DID YOU READ THAT POST/RESPONSE I WROTE IN RESPONSE TO THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE??

[Journey]

Wasn't sure where to find it after I got to the page, but I was kinda muti-tasking last night and didn't have a lot of time to look.

Maybe I'll get a chance later tonight. I've got to go grocery shopping in a little while.

Might be easier to find if you just move it here though. I've still got those other cases
of interest I'm following.

[Journey]

ABUSE

Abuse is defined as misuse; to use wrongly; to hurt by treating badly; mistreat; to use insulting, coarse or bad language about or to revile; injury; a bad, unjust, or corrupt custom or practice.

Most people are abused in one way or another during their lifetime. Some common forms of abuse are physical, verbal, emotional,sexual, and rarely spoken of, is ritual abuse. Whatever form it may take, abuse causes a root of rejection.

Abuse--whether it takes the form of broken relationships, abandonment, divorce, false accusations, exclusion from groups, dislike by teachers and other authority figures, ridicule by peers or any one of hundreds of other such hurtful actions--can and do cause emotional wounds which can hinder people in their efforts to maintain healthy, lasting relationships.

Have you been abused? Misused? Treated wrong or improperly? Rejected? Has it affected your emotional state? Do you really want to be healed? Do you want to get well? Not everyone wants to get well badly enough to do what is required. Wounded emotions can become a prison that locks self in and others out. People who are in prison function, but they are not free. Sometimes prisoners--whether physical or emotional--become so accustomed to being in bondage that they settle in with their condition and learn to live with it.

Are you an "emotional prisoner?" If so, how long have you been in that condition? Is it a deep seated and lingering disorder? Do you want to be free of it? Do you really want to be well? If so then you will have to accept personal responsibility. You will have to discover and deal in very practical ways with forgiveness, repressed anger, self-pity, the chip-on-the-shoulder syndrome, the you owe me attitude and many, many other poisonous mental and emotional attitudes that will need cleansing if you are going to be fully well.

[lawmanconfidential]

HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO EVERYONE!