I'm going in circles

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:21 pm

I have been trying to find some old classmates from college. I've tried classmates and reunion and various pother search engines. I know places where they have lived, some basic info as to their family relatives, and things like they are retired from the Army or Air force. The problem is that every time I get listings of matches, I can't get to a site which will give me the phone numbers or there is no indication of the most current number or if the information is very old or recent. They all ask for money. Shouldn't I be able to find the most current phone numbers relatively easily? The sites always lead back to a charging site for that info of you have to join or spend money for something else to get the info. Any help to simplify searches would help.

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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:11 pm

Phone #s are simple go to whites pages .com or lycos is good too. you should be able to get what you need free. It sounds like you know were they are just no phone #

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:24 pm

justlogic

Welcome to Detective Forums and thanks for your input. Are you an investigator?

watchman

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:53 pm

ccube welcome to Detective Forums, you may want to look at: Investigate net

This site belongs to member and ex-moderator Blong. Contains many search resources, ebooks and investigative tips.

Below is a list of topics found on Investigate net

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The following is a sample of the type of information found on Investigate net

"THERE IS A RECORD!"

Attempting to find people can be an arduous and often frustrating task.
However there is some hope knowing that if a person was born,
"THERE IS A RECORD!"

If they were born, there is a record.
If they were baptized, there is a record
If they went to grammar school, there is a record.
If they went to high school, there is a record.
If they went to college, there is a record.
If they got a driver's license, there is a record.
If they ever had a job, there is a record.
If they were married, there is a record.
If they were divorced, there is a record
If they ever had a phone, there is a record.
(There is even a record of EVERY call they ever made!)
If they had a utility bill, there is a record.
If they ever subscribed to a magazine, there is a record.
If they had a bank account, there is record.
If they had a credit card, there is a record.
If they rented a video, there is a record.
If they had a library card, there is a record.
If they ever went to the doctor, there is a record.
If they ever voted, there is a record.
If they are a U.S. citizen, there is a record.
If they are not a U.S. citizen, there is a record.
If they were in the military, there is a record.
If they were arrested there is a record.
If they ever bought property, there is a record.
If they ever had Internet access, there is record. (and tracks!)

Everyone had a biological mother and father (That's how it works!)
Everyone lived somewhere.
Everyone had neighbors
Everyone had one or more friends.
Everyone had two or more relatives.

Now, if their mother, father, brother, sister, son, daughter, aunt, uncle, grandmother, or grandfather ever had one of the above, there is also a record.

Did you ever get a piece of mail with your name on it?

That is a lot of records. It may sound like rambling but the point is, if you really want to find someone, you can find them! If you think about it, when the police want to find someone, they usually do. It may take some time but they "always get their man!" (or woman...)

It is so very important to "THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX"

Perhaps you are looking for someone that you only knew where they lived when they were 16 years old. Maybe that was 20 years ago. Well, that person probably went to high school. There are probably only a few high schools in the area. You can narrow that down to district. That high school has teachers and principals that usually spend more than four years there. There is a very good chance that a teacher might remember the person. The principal would surely know the principal they replaced. Even if they didn't know that person specifically they probably knew SOMEONE in the same graduating year. Find someone that was in the same class. Every high school has a library. Every high school library has ALL of its yearbooks.

Maybe the person you are looking for bought property in that same town. Or maybe a family member did. Property records are all public information and that is held by the county of record. You can access many county records online now.

BEGIN BY SEARCHING THE NAME:

When you do a search in any database, start by entering first and last name and middle initial if you know it, and the state of last known address.

You might get lucky the first time. If you don't then broaden the search.. Just type the first initial and last name. This is especially important with women as many women prefer to only list their first initial.

Use different variations of the name. As an example: De Angelo might be listed as Deangelo. You will get dramatic differences in those results.

Be sure to "Google" the name... Your long lost friend might be a popular person and if you enter the person’s name, you might just get lucky. I was searching for a old friend. I put his name in quotes in Google and found out he was recently appointed president of a company in Oklahoma. I am in New York.

If you have a last known address, you can do a reverse address lookup. You might see that person's name or a relative or someone that bought the house from the person you are looking for. Also you can just enter the name of the street and see how many names and numbers come up. You can call the neighbors.

What did the person like to do? What places might they frequent? Who did they know? Who may have known them? Who might they have worked for? Who might have delivered their mail?

I had an experience in looking for someone. I was given a former employer. I went there and no one knew where that person could possibly be. I was leaving the office as the mailman was coming in. I asked the mailman if he knew the person. The mailman said "I'm new on this route." I asked where I might find the old mailman.. (letter carrier) He told me... I found the old letter carrier and he knew of the guy. He told me he was a golf fanatic. I went to the local golf course and talked to the golf pro there and ended up meeting the person I was looking for at his next tee time.

Don't just look for the person you want to find. Look for anyone they might be related to or lived near or worked with.

The telephone is your best weapon! (…along with the Internet)

People are generally willing to help you if you are polite and tell them who you are, how you came to call them and why. Be honest and be brief. Respect people's time and call at reasonable hours. And be very apologetic if you have an incorrect number. You may have many. Write down who you call so you do not call them twice.

GOVERNMENT DATABASES

Government databases are awesome places to search. You can go to the web site for the county in which your person may have lived and you can type in their name in the court section to see if there was ever a court action. You can search county property records. If anyone with the same last name ever bought property, they will be listed. It often shows multiple listings for multiple real estate transactions. You might just find the last house they purchased, go back to the reverse address search tool and find your party. You can check the county sheriff’s web site. Many allow a search for inmates past and present.

A WORD OF CAUTION:

Many databases that you search will say "One or more records found!" Then they will ask you to pay to go any further. You don't have to pay. Just take the information you get and cross reference it elsewhere. You can pay if you like or if you don't have the time to do all the searching. Just don't expect dramatic results. Often times you will be handed information that you could easily get yourself.

There are some good search firms out there. Just be careful. The ones that say you can get access to peoples’ plate numbers... stay away from. Not all records are public and privacy is a big, big issue in the U.S. Some states are "open" states and some are "closed" meaning public records are not so public.

Keep in mind that the worst thing that can happen is someone might say "no." That only means that you are ONE step closer to a "Yes!"

I use (( Investigate.net )) to do all my searches. All the database tabs remain visible while searching. All the databases are freely available on the Internet buy just collected in one spot.

I hope this post brings you closer to the one you are looking for.

Remember: THE ONLY WAY TO FAIL IS TO QUIT!

…and at the risk of offending a few… I might suggest everyone take a quiet moment and say a little prayer for help to the keeper of all the records.

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:54 pm

Ccube also take a look at Lawmanconfidential's site http://detectiveforums.com/forums/link.php?url=http://www.411forensics.com and read his prior post.
I find lawman to be extremely knowledgeable and helpful, my first choice for difficult locates or complex investigations.